Major upcoming NPC pathfinding update

[Jonas]

Nex doesn't follow you anymore unless it goes in to do a melee attack.

His range of attack is very high, that might be the problem. He doesn't have to move to attack you.

[Thearlygamer]

seems like pvp if you click to attack someone it runs to them like normal

[Kenneth]

Odium and malediction shards are not in any of the wildy boss drop tables

[Troll n roll]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but range and magic npcs are supposed to walk up to you, unless you are attacking them? IIRC that's a main mechanic for chinning at arma?

[Slap a ho]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but range and magic npcs are supposed to walk up to you, unless you are attacking them? IIRC that's a main mechanic for chinning at arma?

Correct. It’s a luring technique used for many, many, NPC’s.

[Thearlygamer]

Odium and malediction shards are not in any of the wildy boss drop tables

on a test server that gives you every drop, you still manage to be unlucky

[Jonas]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but range and magic npcs are supposed to walk up to you, unless you are attacking them? IIRC that's a main mechanic for chinning at arma?

Easily fixable if you adjust the range of their attacks. For example at Elves, their range is like 5 tiles, so if you attack them from 10+ tiles, they'll walk up to you till they're in range and attack you.

[Slap a ho]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but range and magic npcs are supposed to walk up to you, unless you are attacking them? IIRC that's a main mechanic for chinning at arma?

Easily fixable if you adjust the range of their attacks. For example at Elves, their range is like 5 tiles, so if you attack them from 10+ tiles, they'll walk up to you till they're in range and attack you.

Not how it works. What he’s talking about is the NPC’s automatically getting agro towards you from spawn & walking to you, being 1 tile away. In OSRS, you don’t attack them until they get into their spot. If you attack, they stop moving towards you if they’re within their attack range & continue attacking from a distance.

Arma is the best example of it because that’s where it’s most commonly used. The strategy is to not retaliate until the melee minion is in front of you and Kree behind the melee minion. Then you attack the melee minion and it splashes arma in the back for bonus damage.

[Jonas]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but range and magic npcs are supposed to walk up to you, unless you are attacking them? IIRC that's a main mechanic for chinning at arma?

Easily fixable if you adjust the range of their attacks. For example at Elves, their range is like 5 tiles, so if you attack them from 10+ tiles, they'll walk up to you till they're in range and attack you.

Not how it works. What he’s talking about is the NPC’s automatically getting agro towards you from spawn & walking to you, being 1 tile away. In OSRS, you don’t attack them until they get into their spot. If you attack, they stop moving towards you if they’re within their attack range & continue attacking from a distance.

Arma is the best example of it because that’s where it’s most commonly used. The strategy is to not retaliate until the melee minion is in front of you and Kree behind the melee minion. Then you attack the melee minion and it splashes arma in the back for bonus damage.

Oh cool, never knew that.

[Iron adam]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but range and magic npcs are supposed to walk up to you, unless you are attacking them? IIRC that's a main mechanic for chinning at arma?

Easily fixable if you adjust the range of their attacks. For example at Elves, their range is like 5 tiles, so if you attack them from 10+ tiles, they'll walk up to you till they're in range and attack you.

Not how it works. What he’s talking about is the NPC’s automatically getting agro towards you from spawn & walking to you, being 1 tile away. In OSRS, you don’t attack them until they get into their spot. If you attack, they stop moving towards you if they’re within their attack range & continue attacking from a distance.

Arma is the best example of it because that’s where it’s most commonly used. The strategy is to not retaliate until the melee minion is in front of you and Kree behind the melee minion. Then you attack the melee minion and it splashes arma in the back for bonus damage.

The GWD bosses are exceptions. In general, NPC's that have a long range attack will attack you from that long range regardless of whether or not you attacked them first or are attacking them back.

Example: Wyverns have 3 attack styles. Ranged, Melee, and Icy breath. As soon as you are within the Wyvern's aggressive range, it will attempt to attack you. If you are not within melee range, then it will use one of the two long range attacks. It will not walk into melee distance of your character at any point. The only time it will move is if you move to a location where you are no longer attackable by the NPC.


Example: Corporeal Beast has two attack styles. Melee and Magic. If you are out of his melee range, he will use only the magic attack. He will not move into melee range. If you move into his melee range, then he will use one of the two attacks at random.



So in terms of the general rules that should dictate what the majority of NPCs will do, Range and Magic NPCs should NOT walk up to you when attacking. Whether or not you attack them first or at all should have no effect on their pathing or attack choice.

All of the GWD bosses do seem to be exceptions to this rule. They all have multiple attack styles, but will walk into melee range. If you are out of melee range, they will use their long range attacks until they get within melee range. The minions however, will behave in the same way as standard NPCs. The melee minions will constantly attempt to get within melee distance of you while the mage and range minions will attack from their stationary point. This logic is indeed the basis for Armadyl and Saradomin GWD strategies on OSRS which can be seen in these short videos.

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