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Advertisement for Pkhonor
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:06 pm
by Pvm onor
I know its a common thing to always talk about what would fix pkhonor, but I dont think general advertisement has been talked about.
Lets take it old school, if you hate him or love him Ain played a huge role of advertising this server, ( FOR FREE ) some of his videos have 5k+ views on them thats more than most people get now when they advertise a server. As of now we have 22 players online thats without taking into account any alts. I see no point in releasing TOB or any new content if nobody knows about it but the people who already play the game. Pkhonor has enough content for a new players to enjoy like godwars, wildy bosses, revs, clue scrolls even the skilling zone the list goes on. Tob is only really end game content the only people who will be doing tob is vets really once you get death or enchanted comps there aint much to do but tob should fix that for a while.
So what I propose is we need somebody who has a decent big following like Sohan or Brett to literally play the server for a week and get them to use things like Death, custom whips clue scrolls enchanted comps and have them do everything there is to do on this server. Because ::vote is not good enough no private server just relies on ::vote to get players to there game. If it costs $500 or $2000 so be it you made enough money from the white aprons and the grains im sure it wouldnt be a problem.
Re: Advertisement for Pkhonor
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:35 pm
by Slap a ho
Pvm onor wrote:If it costs $500 or $2000 so be it you made enough money from the white aprons and the grains im sure it wouldnt be a problem.
Lmao. How about you buck up and donate $2000 to advertise with bub.
Re: Advertisement for Pkhonor
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:50 pm
by Googlestar
Slap a ho wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:35 pm
Pvm onor wrote:If it costs $500 or $2000 so be it you made enough money from the white aprons and the grains im sure it wouldnt be a problem.
Lmao. How about you buck up and donate $2000 to advertise with bub.
Think you miss understood you ain’t going spend 2k on a video, obviously it means over a long period of time. Which they’d made in white aprons and that’s without regular donations and they would make that money back if new players cane and donated. People already donate that kind of money anyways
I wanna know what the money we spend goes too
Re: Advertisement for Pkhonor
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:06 pm
by Iron adam
Googlestar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:50 pm
I wanna know what the money we spend goes too
Server Hosting, DDoS protection, and salary. Mike and Rapsey have to pay themselves. Gone are the ages of rsps run by 17 year olds. Every hour they spend on Pkhonor is an hour that they could be working a different job.
OT: I will fly my crop-duster over Cairo today and drop 10,000 leaflets with advertisements for PkHonor.
Re: Advertisement for Pkhonor
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:37 pm
by Slap a ho
Googlestar wrote:Think you miss understood you ain’t going spend 2k on a video, obviously it means over a long period of time.
I don’t believe I misunderstood. He literally said:
Pvm onor wrote:So what I propose is we need somebody who has a decent big following like Sohan or Brett to literally play the server for a week
1 week is a long time?
Googlestar wrote:Which they’d made in white aprons and that’s without regular donations and they would make that money back if new players cane and donated. People already donate that kind of money anyways
I wanna know what the money we spend goes too
Small businesses can’t afford to operate on “what if”. I’m doubtful that Mike and Rapsey are seeing much profit with the 50 active players. Your money that you spend goes to everything - Salaries, operating costs (server isn’t free), etc..
I’m not saying marketing isn’t good or that the budget spent on marketing shouldn’t be upped, but to drop $500-$2000 for someone to make a video is a huge investment risk with no guarantee for ROI. If there isn’t money left in the budget to fund the server, it will die.
Re: Advertisement for Pkhonor
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:18 pm
by Googlestar
I can’t remember how long ago it was and even Ain said it in one of his videos, that mike said pkhonor would be fine without donations for a year but obviously times change. I get tha the money they make it goes into there salary or whatever but you’d think the state pkh you’d put some money here n there to advertise the server, And I’m pretty sure they can afford to spend some money here n there cause wha white aprons were 50k donator credits which is like wha £200+ and the grains were the same and the generally people donate for customs here n there too so o don’t see why not a single penny is spent on actually advertising the server. We aren’t getting any new players we are just losing players
Re: Advertisement for Pkhonor
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:58 pm
by Slap a ho
Googlestar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:18 pm
I can’t remember how long ago it was and even Ain said it in one of his videos, that mike said pkhonor would be fine without donations for a year but obviously times change. I get tha the money they make it goes into there salary or whatever but you’d think the state pkh you’d put some money here n there to advertise the server, And I’m pretty sure they can afford to spend some money here n there cause wha white aprons were 50k donator credits which is like wha £200+ and the grains were the same and the generally people donate for customs here n there too so o don’t see why not a single penny is spent on actually advertising the server. We aren’t getting any new players we are just losing players
Idk what their financials are. I do know that marketing is expensive, which is why almost every company has a marketing budget because the amount of money spent can get out of hand very fast. A basic banner on a front page can run hundreds of dollars a week depending on how heavy the traffic is of the website. Hell, could run into the thousands. It’s ignorant to assume they can afford to do this kind of stuff when you don’t even know their available budget or financials.
Re: Advertisement for Pkhonor
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:12 pm
by Googlestar
Slap a ho wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:58 pm
Googlestar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:18 pm
I can’t remember how long ago it was and even Ain said it in one of his videos, that mike said pkhonor would be fine without donations for a year but obviously times change. I get tha the money they make it goes into there salary or whatever but you’d think the state pkh you’d put some money here n there to advertise the server, And I’m pretty sure they can afford to spend some money here n there cause wha white aprons were 50k donator credits which is like wha £200+ and the grains were the same and the generally people donate for customs here n there too so o don’t see why not a single penny is spent on actually advertising the server. We aren’t getting any new players we are just losing players
Idk what their financials are. I do know that marketing is expensive, which is why almost every company has a marketing budget because the amount of money spent can get out of hand very fast. A basic banner on a front page can run hundreds of dollars a week depending on how heavy the traffic is of the website. Hell, could run into the thousands. It’s ignorant to assume they can afford to do this kind of stuff when you don’t even know their available budget or financials.
Guess we will never
Re: Advertisement for Pkhonor
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:24 pm
by Raj
I can't believe you guys are bashing on this guy for suggesting we do something to bring in players in response to the low player counts. Truly unbelievable and outlandish thinking and this 'Pvm Onor' guy should definitely be met with harsh criticism for something that is very much possible and helpful.
"but mike and rapsey's salaries"
Anyone who's started a business knows you put the money back in which leads to you making nothing and gaining customers for a few years until you can make consistent money. Yeah Mike and Rapsey need to get paid BUT it's important to remember growth is also an important part of getting paid and growth costs money. Slight financial dilemma but I'm borderline positive PkH didn't get to 200 daily players without ever advertising once, and it's a little wild that you guys are clowning this guy for making a legitimate suggestion
Re: Advertisement for Pkhonor
Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:58 am
by Slap a ho
Pvm porn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:24 pm
I can't believe you guys are bashing on this guy for suggesting we do something to bring in players in response to the low player counts. Truly unbelievable and outlandish thinking and this 'Pvm Onor' guy should definitely be met with harsh criticism for something that is very much possible and helpful.
"but mike and rapsey's salaries"
Anyone who's started a business knows you put the money back in which leads to you making nothing and gaining customers for a few years until you can make consistent money. Yeah Mike and Rapsey need to get paid BUT it's important to remember growth is also an important part of getting paid and growth costs money. Slight financial dilemma but I'm borderline positive PkH didn't get to 200 daily players without ever advertising once, and it's a little wild that you guys are clowning this guy for making a legitimate suggestion
Nobody is bashing/clowning him..? It’s very easy to tell someone how to spend their money when it’s not your money that’s being spent. Have you the slightest clue about the costs for marketing?
The YouTube thing has been brought up countless of times for there to be a YouTuber rank, rewards for making videos, etc. Mike and Rapsey have stated countless of times they are not interested and do not see the benefit. If someone wants to make videos, they will. If they don’t, they won’t. While I and many others disagree with the lack of providing incentives, it’s ultimately their call. Obviously they’re not interested in providing incentives made up of pixels, so what makes you think they’ll give a random YouTuber $2k for a video?
You put money into a business when you expect it to be a career. Maybe I’ll be wrong, but I’m doubtful that RSPS, including pkhonor, will be around long enough to consider it a career. I don’t expect to see RuneScape around for another 40 years.