PkHonor

Hayden wrote:

Vanquish wrote:07 and PkHonor are completely different. On PkHonor you can get things a lot easier, as obviously, they are more obtainable than on 07. Removing divines, hp boosts from hp boosting armours would be completely insane. Most people actually worked to get these advantages over less experienced/fortunate players and deserve to keep said advantage.

Uh
It's ONE minigame
Having an extreme advantage on everything else combat related isn't enough, you need the advantage on the one minigame that's supposed to be fair too?

There will be a balance of wealthy/experienced players and nubs/poor players like there always has been.

Vanquish wrote:

Hayden wrote:

Vanquish wrote:07 and PkHonor are completely different. On PkHonor you can get things a lot easier, as obviously, they are more obtainable than on 07. Removing divines, hp boosts from hp boosting armours would be completely insane. Most people actually worked to get these advantages over less experienced/fortunate players and deserve to keep said advantage.

Uh
It's ONE minigame
Having an extreme advantage on everything else combat related isn't enough, you need the advantage on the one minigame that's supposed to be fair too?

There will be a balance of wealthy/experienced players and nubs/poor players like there always has been.

There is no balance. Wealth absolutely demolished every one else and leaves no equality.

I can't keep up with Virtus / Torva w/ Divine and Chaos Whip, when I'm using Ahrims, Torags and Arcane/DFS w/ Abyssal Whip/SoL. I am experienced and I can occasionally outhit them. However, in a game like Castle Wars, I cannot outlast them, ever, which is all its about. It's all about wealth and no matter what you say, you know that is true.


All I want is ONE important part of the game that won't be dominated by people with money. A part of the game that still relies on skill. That should be the wilderness, but all this OP gear ruins it. Why can't you let it be Castle Wars? Why do you insist on having an unfair advantage absolutely everywhere?

Hashtag wrote: There is no balance. Wealth absolutely demolished every one else and leaves no equality.

I can't keep up with Virtus / Torva w/ Divine and Chaos Whip, when I'm using Ahrims, Torags and Arcane/DFS w/ Abyssal Whip/SoL. I am experienced and I can occasionally outhit them. However, in a game like Castle Wars, I cannot outlast them, ever, which is all its about. It's all about wealth and no matter what you say, you know that is true.

I never denied that it's mostly wealth.
But the wealthy players got to where they are at because they worked hard to get there so they shouldn't have their items nerfed because someone else can't afford them.

I'm going to make you a little scenario:
"Oh hey, Bob. Is that the new BMW M3?"
"Yah it is, Kevin. It's not as good as the older one, though, because someone complained about it being too good so they had to make us hard working, wealthy people to suffer the consequences of the complaining less fortunate people with previously not as good cars."

Vanquish wrote:

Hashtag wrote: There is no balance. Wealth absolutely demolished every one else and leaves no equality.

I can't keep up with Virtus / Torva w/ Divine and Chaos Whip, when I'm using Ahrims, Torags and Arcane/DFS w/ Abyssal Whip/SoL. I am experienced and I can occasionally outhit them. However, in a game like Castle Wars, I cannot outlast them, ever, which is all its about. It's all about wealth and no matter what you say, you know that is true.

I never denied that it's mostly wealth.
But the wealthy players got to where they are at because they worked hard to get there so they shouldn't have their items nerfed because someone else can't afford them.

They went to the duel arena and got lucky
"work"

Vanquish wrote:

Hashtag wrote: There is no balance. Wealth absolutely demolished every one else and leaves no equality.

I can't keep up with Virtus / Torva w/ Divine and Chaos Whip, when I'm using Ahrims, Torags and Arcane/DFS w/ Abyssal Whip/SoL. I am experienced and I can occasionally outhit them. However, in a game like Castle Wars, I cannot outlast them, ever, which is all its about. It's all about wealth and no matter what you say, you know that is true.

I never denied that it's mostly wealth.
But the wealthy players got to where they are at because they worked hard to get there so they shouldn't have their items nerfed because someone else can't afford them.

So whilst you get to dominate everywhere, everyone else just has to submit, purely because you made a bit of money. You're sounding like an elitist; as if you're entitled to additional bonuses and easier gameplay just because you've been here longer.

Hashtag wrote:

Vanquish wrote:

Hashtag wrote: There is no balance. Wealth absolutely demolished every one else and leaves no equality.

I can't keep up with Virtus / Torva w/ Divine and Chaos Whip, when I'm using Ahrims, Torags and Arcane/DFS w/ Abyssal Whip/SoL. I am experienced and I can occasionally outhit them. However, in a game like Castle Wars, I cannot outlast them, ever, which is all its about. It's all about wealth and no matter what you say, you know that is true.

I never denied that it's mostly wealth.
But the wealthy players got to where they are at because they worked hard to get there so they shouldn't have their items nerfed because someone else can't afford them.

So whilst you get to dominate everywhere, everyone else just has to submit, purely because you made a bit of money. You're sounding like an elitist; as if you're entitled to additional bonuses and easier gameplay just because you've been here longer.

No, I'm sounding like an elitist because I actually worked hard for my items and I don't want to see them turned into mush because someone else can't afford to buy it.

I repeat.

One. Minigame. Your items have their value. You have to play one. Minigame. With no advantage.

Hayden wrote:I repeat.

One. Minigame. Your items have their value. You have to play one. Minigame. With no advantage.

I intend to play this minigame a lot to get the great rewards. I repeat. I want a well-earned advantage because I worked hard to get said advantage.

Consider this from a new players perspective. They're really excited about Castle Wars, but they become annoyed and angry because they quite literally have no chance. None. You can run rings around them and they can't do a thing to stop you.

That's how it is for everyone who doesn't have the OP gear though, not just new players. They cannot do anything to stop you, whilst you just walk all over them. Your reason for this being fair is because you've played longer and 'earned' it. Do they not even get a chance? Have they not at least earned that?

Even without HP boosts (and divine/3a Staff), your gear is still superior due to its stats. You would still be at an advantage, you'd just have to use skill and not money to best them. A well earned advantage is one that gives a small but noticable bonus, not one that has a huge impact on anyone you come across.

Vanquish wrote:

Hayden wrote:I repeat.

One. Minigame. Your items have their value. You have to play one. Minigame. With no advantage.

I intend to play this minigame a lot to get the great rewards. I repeat. I want a well-earned advantage because I worked hard to get said advantage.

Your advantage will stop most people from wanting to play unless they're on your team. If I was against you prods, I would leave and come back in twenty minutes because it isn't worth my time. You ruin the fun. You did it in the Wilderness, don't do it here too. You aren't entitled to anything, stop acting as if you are because you've apparently earned it due to a bit of timeplayed.

Hashtag wrote:Consider this from a new players perspective. They're really excited about Castle Wars, but they become annoyed and angry because they quite literally have no chance. None. You can run rings around them and they can't do a thing to stop you.

That's how it is for everyone who doesn't have the OP gear though, not just new players. They cannot do anything to stop you, whilst you just walk all over them. Your reason for this being fair is because you've played longer and 'earned' it. Do they not even get a chance? Have they not at least earned that?

Even without HP boosts (and divine/3a Staff), your gear is still superior due to its stats. You would still be at an advantage, you'd just have to use skill and not money to best them.

Virtus without its HP boost isn't even worth using because Ahrim's is better and so is Zuriel's.
Torva without its HP boost is still good because you can tank with it, but you can also tank with Vesta's and Torag's.
Are barrows and PvP items hard to obtain? No, not at all. You need to remember that this is a private server and even the most difficult things to obtain are still considered to be easily obtainable.