Demon kiteshield stats

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Which stats should the Demon kiteshield have?

Same as Rune kiteshield
3
5%
Same as DFS (without dragonfire attack or protection)
22
39%
Same as Arcane spirit shield (without special effects)
1
2%
Same as Blessed spirit shield (without special effects)
1
2%
Same as Divine spirit shield (without special effects)
5
9%
Same as Elysian spirit shield (without special effects)
8
14%
No stats whatsoever (but also no requirements)
17
30%
 
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Re: Demon kiteshield stats

Post by Cancerstick » Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:19 pm

Agreed with the 'big ass shield = big ass stats', but the problem then is that it's basically a pay2win item.

DFS stats and the cost to get the shield... no ones going to actually use it to pvm. Maybe risk fighting in edge?

Giving it any of the spirit shield stats, without special effects makes it basically worthless anyways.

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Re: Demon kiteshield stats

Post by Thierryu1 » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:35 pm

Cancerstick wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:19 pm Agreed with the 'big ass shield = big ass stats', but the problem then is that it's basically a pay2win item.

DFS stats and the cost to get the shield... no ones going to actually use it to pvm. Maybe risk fighting in edge?

Giving it any of the spirit shield stats, without special effects makes it basically worthless anyways.
How is it p2w? It has no bonus vs dragons and it's way too expensive to be seen as a viable option to pvm with. It should have stats that look bulky like the DFS but not be as much of use as a DFS, Aka the price + the removal of it's bonus.
It can be used to pvm as it will most probably always be an item that's with you when you die. And it's also a fun shield to use for pking. Not all extremes should cater to the Skilling/cosmetic side. Just as long as it's not a better pick over other shields.
In the end it will always be a overly priced shield and most probably only be used to flex and cosmetic with. Just give it stats that fit look.
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Re: Demon kiteshield stats

Post by Monys » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:39 pm

Have the demon kiteshield stats be 0 when you first get it but grant it the ability to consume other shields so it's essentially an override. Whenever you want to change it to something else, you lose whatever shield was initially added to it but it puts it back in the tradeable/inert status of having no requirements or skills
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Re: Demon kiteshield stats

Post by Patel » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:43 pm

Monys wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:39 pm Have the demon kiteshield stats be 0 when you first get it but grant it the ability to consume other shields so it's essentially an override. Whenever you want to change it to something else, you lose whatever shield was initially added to it but it puts it back in the tradeable/inert status of having no requirements or skills
We'd also have to implement a way to get rid of the boosted stats in the wilderness or to somehow indicate that it's got DFS bonuses, otherwise someone could hide their stats in the wild. RS3 has a nice rule, where all cosmetic overrides are disabled in the wildy. Something similar would be necessary
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Re: Demon kiteshield stats

Post by Monys » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:16 pm

Patel wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:43 pm
Monys wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:39 pm Have the demon kiteshield stats be 0 when you first get it but grant it the ability to consume other shields so it's essentially an override. Whenever you want to change it to something else, you lose whatever shield was initially added to it but it puts it back in the tradeable/inert status of having no requirements or skills
We'd also have to implement a way to get rid of the boosted stats in the wilderness or to somehow indicate that it's got DFS bonuses, otherwise someone could hide their stats in the wild. RS3 has a nice rule, where all cosmetic overrides are disabled in the wildy. Something similar would be necessary
True. It could function like custom whips do in the wilderness
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Re: Demon kiteshield stats

Post by Purex666 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:06 am

All I wanna know is how many will be added into the shop will it be 10? will it be a week sale then taken out?
also I think no stats what so ever. bc then you would have to do something for the grains and other ultras items..
dont make more work for nothing rapsey.. balance..

but if you want some work..
demon kite - would be a dfs + any spirit shield that they combine it with. divine, ely, arcane also bandos kite!.. 1-2T
grain - would be added to the ench comp cape making it so you can put items into it like a pack yak.. 1-2T
cape of legends.. would also make it the same as the grain..add to ench comp make it like a pack yak. 1-2T
white apo - to me i think of this item more of a skilling item, so id say like xp buff or something and price point fits it 200b.
wooden - should just get DFS.. bc we all know fire and wood mix well.. :ugeek: and its 250-350b

I would not call these pay2win for few reasons. first off the price points.. the time to get that kinda cash is crazy unless you stake..
This is a rsps and there is no end to this game. so there is no pay2win.

def-Games that let you buy better gear or allow you to make better items then everyone else at a faster rate and then makes the game largely unbalanced even for people who have skill in the game without paying.

pay2win is a game that puts max gear into a shop forever. "nex gear"

rsps relay dont have a $$ cap.. so.. can relay cant pay2win.. i mean if u wanted to spend 1,000,000,000$ to have the most $$ in the sever you can.. but why..??

also note each thing that was add is mostly stuff thats super hard or time consuming to get. bandos kite.. is a quest..
comp capes have a hole list of stuff.

the only thing i think thats pushing pay2win would be white apo if you were to add xp buff to it for skillers.

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Re: Demon kiteshield stats

Post by Thierryu1 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:29 am

Purex666 wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:06 am grain - would be added to the ench comp cape making it so you can put items into it like a pack yak.. 1-2T
cape of legends.. would also make it the same as the grain..add to ench comp make it like a pack yak. 1-2T
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Re: Demon kiteshield stats

Post by Respire1337 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:54 am

Umm, Rapsey, can we get a Captcha when we try to post replies and make threads? Will filter the forums, A LOT. Thanks.
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Re: Demon kiteshield stats

Post by Isaac » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:52 pm

Respire1337 wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:54 am Umm, Rapsey, can we get a Captcha when we try to post replies and make threads? Will filter the forums, A LOT. Thanks.
If we have to deal with your silly suggestions for an OSRS copy then you should deal with other people's silly suggestions too Alex come on.

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Re: Demon kiteshield stats

Post by Respire1337 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:05 pm

Isaac wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:52 pm
Respire1337 wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:54 am Umm, Rapsey, can we get a Captcha when we try to post replies and make threads? Will filter the forums, A LOT. Thanks.
If we have to deal with your silly suggestions for an OSRS copy then you should deal with other people's silly suggestions too Alex come on.
Seems like you fail Captchas a lot.
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