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Ruler wrote:Sorry I'm really clueless now because you are practically saying 'construction is useless, costs more effort and is expensive, but agility is also useless so lets make it more useful!'. I get your point but your reasoning is just off in my opinion...
For me it doesn't make sense you can get bonus exp in a skill by doing another skill. I would prefer to see a skill point system, which is immediately a good moment to revamp points and alter shops (divide pkhonor points in skiller points and pk points). Although this might be way too hard to change at this point (what to do with all the pkp people have...?)

Empty bag wrote:
I think in this case your right, either it should be obtainable through all the skills or every skill needs it’s own outfit imo.

Adamthalion wrote:Will buying each set require currency specific to each skill? I feel like you should have to do the skill for a certain amount of time before being obtaining the outfit. You should have to do around 200m worth of experience in each respective skill before getting the outfit.

Andres wrote:

Ruler wrote:Sorry I'm really clueless now because you are practically saying 'construction is useless, costs more effort and is expensive, but agility is also useless so lets make it more useful!'. I get your point but your reasoning is just off in my opinion...
For me it doesn't make sense you can get bonus exp in a skill by doing another skill. I would prefer to see a skill point system, which is immediately a good moment to revamp points and alter shops (divide pkhonor points in skiller points and pk points). Although this might be way too hard to change at this point (what to do with all the pkp people have...?)

Where do I ever say 'construction is useless' ? Where do you get all that stuff from?
I just made a statement where I say that going for 2b is considered as a huge achievement and therefore worth training? how is that calling a skill useless? That's new..
Agility has 0 extra features besides the infinite run.

And I am pretty triggered everytime I see things like (your suggestion as example now): "Make skiller points and change shops to skilling content and move the old pk points to PK related stuff and done")
Sounds Like music in your ears right? But excuse me If I am wrong but I have never saw a thread where they explain how they exactly want to change it or how the shops should look like, all skills give points or just a limited amount ? and everything else that comes with it.
All good and well but if no one brings a concrete idea to the developers how are we supposed to make it? Sure we can figure it out ourselves but that would take time, time where we could actually code things..

some brief examples:

Empty bag wrote:
I think in this case your right, either it should be obtainable through all the skills or every skill needs it’s own outfit imo.

Obtainable through every skill? seems nice, No one states how tho. What can I make up from this?

A somehow better suggestion but still not complete :

Adamthalion wrote:Will buying each set require currency specific to each skill? I feel like you should have to do the skill for a certain amount of time before being obtaining the outfit. You should have to do around 200m worth of experience in each respective skill before getting the outfit.

Getting 200m xp should give you a full set, just a piece ?
What about skills that don't have a skilling set, do you can use that 'xp' on other skills? what if the player already has 2b xp and can't gain xp anymore, does he have to reset his xp in order to get it?



I like getting skilling points or whatever it should call, but if no one brings up a well rounded suggestion I am afraid we can't implement it..

Andres wrote:

Ruler wrote:Sorry I'm really clueless now because you are practically saying 'construction is useless, costs more effort and is expensive, but agility is also useless so lets make it more useful!'. I get your point but your reasoning is just off in my opinion...
For me it doesn't make sense you can get bonus exp in a skill by doing another skill. I would prefer to see a skill point system, which is immediately a good moment to revamp points and alter shops (divide pkhonor points in skiller points and pk points). Although this might be way too hard to change at this point (what to do with all the pkp people have...?)

Where do I ever say 'construction is useless' ? Where do you get all that stuff from?
I just made a statement where I say that going for 2b is considered as a huge achievement and therefore worth training? how is that calling a skill useless? That's new..
Agility has 0 extra features besides the infinite run.

And I am pretty triggered everytime I see things like (your suggestion as example now): "Make skiller points and change shops to skilling content and move the old pk points to PK related stuff and done")
Sounds Like music in your ears right? But excuse me If I am wrong but I have never saw a thread where they explain how they exactly want to change it or how the shops should look like, all skills give points or just a limited amount ? and everything else that comes with it.
All good and well but if no one brings a concrete idea to the developers how are we supposed to make it? Sure we can figure it out ourselves but that would take time, time where we could actually code things..

some brief examples:

Empty bag wrote:
I think in this case your right, either it should be obtainable through all the skills or every skill needs it’s own outfit imo.

Obtainable through every skill? seems nice, No one states how tho. What can I make up from this?

By training non combat skills you can get skill points just like pkhonor points only for a skill store. That’s how those items imo should become obtainable.

A somehow better suggestion but still not complete :

Adamthalion wrote:Will buying each set require currency specific to each skill? I feel like you should have to do the skill for a certain amount of time before being obtaining the outfit. You should have to do around 200m worth of experience in each respective skill before getting the outfit.

Getting 200m xp should give you a full set, just a piece ?
What about skills that don't have a skilling set, do you can use that 'xp' on other skills? what if the player already has 2b xp and can't gain xp anymore, does he have to reset his xp in order to get it?



I like getting skilling points or whatever it should call, but if no one brings up a well rounded suggestion I am afraid we can't implement it..

Andres wrote:

Ruler wrote:Sorry I'm really clueless now because you are practically saying 'construction is useless, costs more effort and is expensive, but agility is also useless so lets make it more useful!'. I get your point but your reasoning is just off in my opinion...
For me it doesn't make sense you can get bonus exp in a skill by doing another skill. I would prefer to see a skill point system, which is immediately a good moment to revamp points and alter shops (divide pkhonor points in skiller points and pk points). Although this might be way too hard to change at this point (what to do with all the pkp people have...?)

Where do I ever say 'construction is useless' ? Where do you get all that stuff from?
I just made a statement where I say that going for 2b is considered as a huge achievement and therefore worth training? how is that calling a skill useless? That's new..
Agility has 0 extra features besides the infinite run.

The builder wrote:I disagree Sverre. Construction is required for the best method at KQ, for easier frost dragons, for the best elite dropper (Nomad), and a bunch of other stuff.

It just also costs a lot, so its kinda balanced out in my opinion

Ruler wrote:That is true. In general, big suggestions like the one I made are not worked out properly. Can you blame members of the community for not doing that? If you see tons of (easy) suggestions being ignored for a long time, why would you waste your time in figuring out all the details? If devs would say, hey, my next project is going to be this, I am interested in what you guys think, could you help? Perhaps you would get a better response. From what I've heard there are tons of thoroughly thought out suggestions in the gqc (as ben already said) which aren't looked at. Pretty sure there have been for example new bosses as well where the whole drop table was discussed in the gqc and wasn't looked at when the boss was implemented (not sure though).
For example this thread. Awesome for all the effort put in it, makes it a lot easier than just saying 'more quests please'. But if you ask me, it was a waste of his time. 2.5 years later, no response of devs and probably will never be implemented. If we get new quests it will probably be developed from scratch by devs anyways. Can you really blame us for not working out all suggestions like that?