PkHonor

Thoby wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:01 pm

Pim wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:28 pm ...

Thank you

I think you're still living in the 2018-ish era. We have gotten shit done, we're roughly over 100+ players in weekends. Most suggestions, pk-related or pvm-related, get implemented these days. I make work of that. I've publicly said that I'm eager to work on PvP suggestions next, so if you have some constructive suggestions: I'm all ears. Believe me. I'll listen and I'll fix it.

It's easy to constantly shit on the team. We established that Mike isn't the best at communication, and just ranting on about him will make him less likely to interact with the community. Why bother?

Nonetheless, point me towards some suggestions. Write one up yourself. I don't mind, I'll gladly discuss whatever is wrong, and I'd love to fix it. It's stupid to think that 1 individual can maintain a server played by hundreds. I don't attempt to think that, I'd rather get direct input by those actually playing the game, those actually knowledgeable about the game.


But constantly bashing the server will make me less eager to help. Will me less eager to work on whatever you're bashing on about. Call it human nature. So again, being blindly negative towards everything won't fix any problems. Help by being constructive, that's what will actually fix the problems.

Pim wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:24 pm - Pathing ( chasing, animations that dont disturb it (veng, barrage)
- Mage accuracy
- Melee/range accuracy alike just also seem to be very off, i wish i could be more constructive on both these but its coding and idk what or how is wrong.
- Risk protection (must risk x amount to attack player with x amount of risk, E.G. player must risk 5b to attack someone that risks 15b+ this is what bones2 and @The underdog and their cc abuse HEAVILY, none of them can pk, they just farm pvmers and as soon as one attacks them they have 20+ 0 item alts logged of to hit you off, this is by far the most toxic behaviour one can do in the wilderness, but this server mutes me when i flame them for it xd:) ) literally every other server has this mechanic

These are VITAL points to make pking even possible on a rsps, note that adding some items or removing some item from the game is the easiest option, that doesn't really affect pking though, provided the base mechanics are just off.

Thoby wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:31 pm
Risk protection is actually something I haven't seen suggested. Might be a me-problem though. Does it work 2 ways? So skillers cannot be attacked / 1-items cannot attack geared PvPers? Otherwise I'd happily implement that, but I don't know exactly how we'd want to do it. Tiers? 0-1b range, 1b-5b range, 5b+ range? Or how would you imagine it?

Pim wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:24 pm

Thoby wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:01 pm

Pim wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:28 pm ...

Thank you

I think you're still living in the 2018-ish era. We have gotten shit done, we're roughly over 100+ players in weekends. Most suggestions, pk-related or pvm-related, get implemented these days. I make work of that. I've publicly said that I'm eager to work on PvP suggestions next, so if you have some constructive suggestions: I'm all ears. Believe me. I'll listen and I'll fix it.

It's easy to constantly shit on the team. We established that Mike isn't the best at communication, and just ranting on about him will make him less likely to interact with the community. Why bother?

Nonetheless, point me towards some suggestions. Write one up yourself. I don't mind, I'll gladly discuss whatever is wrong, and I'd love to fix it. It's stupid to think that 1 individual can maintain a server played by hundreds. I don't attempt to think that, I'd rather get direct input by those actually playing the game, those actually knowledgeable about the game.


But constantly bashing the server will make me less eager to help. Will me less eager to work on whatever you're bashing on about. Call it human nature. So again, being blindly negative towards everything won't fix any problems. Help by being constructive, that's what will actually fix the problems.

- Pathing ( chasing, animations that dont disturb it (veng, barrage)
- Mage accuracy
- Melee/range accuracy alike just also seem to be very off, i wish i could be more constructive on both these but its coding and idk what or how is wrong.
- Risk protection (must risk x amount to attack player with x amount of risk, E.G. player must risk 5b to attack someone that risks 15b+ this is what bones2 and @The underdog and their cc abuse HEAVILY, none of them can pk, they just farm pvmers and as soon as one attacks them they have 20+ 0 item alts logged of to hit you off, this is by far the most toxic behaviour one can do in the wilderness, but this server mutes me when i flame them for it xd:) ) literally every other server has this mechanic

These are VITAL points to make pking even possible on a rsps, note that adding some items or removing some item from the game is the easiest option, that doesn't really affect pking though, provided the base mechanics are just off.

Jousi wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:31 pm Risk protection sounds like a fair suggestion. You still wouldn't have to risk the same amount as the other guy and you wouldn't have to be a total walkover, I believe. So theoretically you wouldn't be at a big disadvantage, yet you wouldn't have to commit to a multi-billion risk every time you want to kill someone in badass gear.

Correct me if I get the idea wrong.

Finally, the risk protection thing is really horrible lol. Might aswell walk with 500 1b ticks in your inventory and be 100% safe because no one will be able to attack you.
Don't let it apply to inventory but gear?
Problem 1: Wear BiS and now not only can you shit over any new player, the new player wont even be able to initiate combat.
Problem 2: wear a legends cape or any other item that has a ridiculous ::prices value and be safe once again. Wanna fix that? Sure, we can blacklist/whitelist items. But by then, why even bother? Wildy is wildy. If you get piled by a bunch of 1itemers when you're caught with 50b risk, it's your fault. Strong gear is usually always the more expensive gear, so it wouldn't even provide an advantage for edge risk PKing since you want the other person to initiate combat so you can shit on them with BiS gear.
It wouldn't work if it was based on any low enough % of risk needed to attack (get too close and it's not worth implementing to begin with). Make it a set amount? (E.g min 5b to fight anyone above 25b): Well good job, you just killed PKing and forced everyone into a stale META.

Lieven wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:35 pm

Jousi wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:31 pm Risk protection sounds like a fair suggestion. You still wouldn't have to risk the same amount as the other guy and you wouldn't have to be a total walkover, I believe. So theoretically you wouldn't be at a big disadvantage, yet you wouldn't have to commit to a multi-billion risk every time you want to kill someone in badass gear.

Correct me if I get the idea wrong.

Finally, the risk protection thing is really horrible lol. Might aswell walk with 500 1b ticks in your inventory and be 100% safe because no one will be able to attack you.
Don't let it apply to inventory but gear?
Problem 1: Wear BiS and now not only can you shit over any new player, the new player wont even be able to initiate combat.
Problem 2: wear a legends cape or any other item that has a ridiculous ::prices value and be safe once again. Wanna fix that? Sure, we can blacklist/whitelist items. But by then, why even bother? Wildy is wildy. If you get piled by a bunch of 1itemers when you're caught with 50b risk, it's your fault. Strong gear is usually always the more expensive gear, so it wouldn't even provide an advantage for edge risk PKing since you want the other person to initiate combat so you can shit on them with BiS gear.
It wouldn't work if it was based on any low enough % of risk needed to attack (get too close and it's not worth implementing to begin with). Make it a set amount? (E.g min 5b to fight anyone above 25b): Well good job, you just killed PKing and forced everyone into a stale META.

Edited it in my comment just before you posted

Jousi wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:38 pm

Lieven wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:35 pm

Jousi wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:31 pm Risk protection sounds like a fair suggestion. You still wouldn't have to risk the same amount as the other guy and you wouldn't have to be a total walkover, I believe. So theoretically you wouldn't be at a big disadvantage, yet you wouldn't have to commit to a multi-billion risk every time you want to kill someone in badass gear.

Correct me if I get the idea wrong.

Finally, the risk protection thing is really horrible lol. Might aswell walk with 500 1b ticks in your inventory and be 100% safe because no one will be able to attack you.
Don't let it apply to inventory but gear?
Problem 1: Wear BiS and now not only can you shit over any new player, the new player wont even be able to initiate combat.
Problem 2: wear a legends cape or any other item that has a ridiculous ::prices value and be safe once again. Wanna fix that? Sure, we can blacklist/whitelist items. But by then, why even bother? Wildy is wildy. If you get piled by a bunch of 1itemers when you're caught with 50b risk, it's your fault. Strong gear is usually always the more expensive gear, so it wouldn't even provide an advantage for edge risk PKing since you want the other person to initiate combat so you can shit on them with BiS gear.
It wouldn't work if it was based on any low enough % of risk needed to attack (get too close and it's not worth implementing to begin with). Make it a set amount? (E.g min 5b to fight anyone above 25b): Well good job, you just killed PKing and forced everyone into a stale META.

Edited it in my comment just before you posted

The only capes with high value are Druidic cloak and Cape of Legends (also Grain: most combat capes are untradeable and magic capes are cheap). Maybe you could ignore their value when in PvP situations.

Pim wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:56 pm It doesn't go off your invetory, what kinda shit is that? You can bring 5 tix in your bag, thats no problem at all.