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Re: Ironman/Customs/Donor Items/ Clues

Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 10:10 am
by Kenneth
Iron adam wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 10:23 pm I also never understood the appeal of drop trading items over from an ironman.
Drop trading valuable dupes so someone doesn't have 4 scythes rotting in their bank

Re: Ironman/Customs/Donor Items/ Clues

Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 2:24 pm
by Fungamer
Kenneth wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 10:10 am
Iron adam wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 10:23 pm I also never understood the appeal of drop trading items over from an ironman.
Drop trading valuable dupes so someone doesn't have 4 scythes rotting in their bank
If you want to make cash, do it on a main. Irons should ideally never interact with the economy. The only exception is getting PKed and alch value is fine IMO.

Re: Ironman/Customs/Donor Items/ Clues

Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 12:00 am
by Hi im sarah
Fungamer wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 2:24 pm
Kenneth wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 10:10 am
Iron adam wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 10:23 pm I also never understood the appeal of drop trading items over from an ironman.
Drop trading valuable dupes so someone doesn't have 4 scythes rotting in their bank
If you want to make cash, do it on a main. Irons should ideally never interact with the economy. The only exception is getting PKed and alch value is fine IMO.
Drop trading from irons to mains is a thing in osrs, I don't see why it shouldn't be a thing here.

Re: Ironman/Customs/Donor Items/ Clues

Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 3:30 am
by Webacklit
Drop trading items from an iron to a main should be allowed. This is how it is in OSRS so I see no reason for it to not be that way here. With how small PKH's economy is compared to OSRS, I can understand why allowing this could be harmful to the eco. However, how often does an iron actually pull a custom from a clue?

Re: Ironman/Customs/Donor Items/ Clues

Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 6:03 am
by Fungamer
Hi im sarah wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 12:00 am
Fungamer wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 2:24 pm
Kenneth wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 10:10 am

Drop trading valuable dupes so someone doesn't have 4 scythes rotting in their bank
If you want to make cash, do it on a main. Irons should ideally never interact with the economy. The only exception is getting PKed and alch value is fine IMO.
Drop trading from irons to mains is a thing in osrs, I don't see why it shouldn't be a thing here.
Because ironman mode is an "easier" game mode here once you're at the endgame. You get help to solo nex and get a load of valuable stuff from clues. It's unbalanced and would turn certain METAs into "do it on an ironman and trade it over".

If the proposed solution to that is to restrict certain items to be droptraded then the whole thing becomes too complex and then it's better to just prevent them from interacting with the eco IMO. We don't have a perfect system now but drop trading is even worse.

Also "because its like that on osrs" isn't an argument for or against anything. PkH isn't osrs and it's not trying to be a carbon copy either.

Re: Ironman/Customs/Donor Items/ Clues

Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 7:24 am
by Raj
Customs can't be drop traded I don't think, I'm like 80% sure they go to refund for 1b, unless that's only in PvP deaths. I think the biggest issue is druidic, which seems a lot more common on irons than mains

Re: Ironman/Customs/Donor Items/ Clues

Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 8:03 am
by Webacklit
Raj wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 7:24 am Customs can't be drop traded I don't think, I'm like 80% sure they go to refund for 1b, unless that's only in PvP deaths. I think the biggest issue is druidic, which seems a lot more common on irons than mains
That's definitely an RNG issue. Anyone can pull druidic, the rates don't change from iron to normie.

Re: Ironman/Customs/Donor Items/ Clues

Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 8:37 am
by Stale fish1
Webacklit wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 8:03 am
Raj wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 7:24 am Customs can't be drop traded I don't think, I'm like 80% sure they go to refund for 1b, unless that's only in PvP deaths. I think the biggest issue is druidic, which seems a lot more common on irons than mains
That's definitely an RNG issue. Anyone can pull druidic, the rates don't change from iron to normie.

Ironmen have access to druidic from clues normal accounts however do not.

Re: Ironman/Customs/Donor Items/ Clues

Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 10:31 am
by Raj
Stale fish1 wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 8:37 am Ironmen have access to druidic from clues normal accounts however do not.
Yeah that, the druidic rate is at least 5x better on ironman

Re: Ironman/Customs/Donor Items/ Clues

Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 7:04 pm
by Webacklit
Raj wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 10:31 am
Stale fish1 wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 8:37 am Ironmen have access to druidic from clues normal accounts however do not.
Yeah that, the druidic rate is at least 5x better on ironman
Oh shoot, I had no clue. Then yeah, that's an issue.